Actually seb, I have a massive problem with the eu. Even if you take all of the free movement issues, 75% of our laws made there, being presented with additional ad hoc bills for 1.7 billion pounds so we can help fund the french and German economies etc etc. Even if you take all of that out of the equation, there is still the anti democratic agenda on the plate. The commission are appointed not elected. They cannot be voted out or removed. The commission are the only ones who can propose or change legislation. The president, who nobody seems to know, is not elected, by the people, although meps do get to have a vote on him by way of secret ballot, ,,, and there is only one nominee. Many referenda from member states have been ignored, I could go on, but I think I've made my point.