[0.00 --> 16.68]  what up party animals this front end feud pre-party episode is for changelog plus plus
[16.68 --> 22.14]  ears only but i pulled out a few minutes of awesome clips that we wanted to share with everyone
[22.14 --> 27.44]  here's the story we were all set to record front end feud last friday but at the 11th hour yuna
[27.44 --> 33.24]  had a home construction project that required her immediate attention so we rescheduled for a few
[33.24 --> 39.12]  days later but the rest of us had already cleared an hour on our schedules and gathered to record
[39.12 --> 44.82]  including compressed co-host amy dutton who unfortunately couldn't make it for the reschedule
[44.82 --> 50.92]  so adam argyle suggested we record something i hit the record button and we chatted about css as a
[50.92 --> 56.70]  programming language living in apple's walled garden how nobody is on the same social media sites anymore
[56.70 --> 62.10]  how to choose tech and the community's sentiment shift against graphql and a whole bunch more
[62.10 --> 69.56]  the full episode is 50 minutes here's a taste if i wanted to bug javascripters like they bug me about
[69.56 --> 76.38]  css not being a programming language i'd be like unless you're writing ones and zeros you ain't
[76.38 --> 84.70]  a programmer you're just writing a high level abstracted language too why's why's yours different
[84.70 --> 88.98]  than mine you know like all of these get turned into machine code unless you're writing the machine
[88.98 --> 91.00]  code you ain't a programmer get out of here
[91.00 --> 97.62]  i always appreciate it when like javascripters well like front ender specifically will be like
[97.62 --> 102.86]  then i drop into node.js because i want to get closer to the metal and i'm always like how far away
[102.86 --> 107.82]  from the metal you are right now yeah there's no metal there's no metal
[107.82 --> 115.24]  here's a question for you adam how many of the new css features are passive aggressive responses to
[115.24 --> 120.32]  this whole css is not a programming language they're like oh we'll show you well did you
[120.32 --> 126.16]  did you see the did you see the person that was making database queries and showing the results all
[126.16 --> 133.48]  from css i'll take your silence as a no what how were they how did they get that to happen
[133.48 --> 143.38]  so i have a random question for you adam yes how do you feel about like browsers that are chrome but
[143.38 --> 149.52]  not chrome i'm thinking like arc like built on top of chrome yep yeah i mean arc is my personal
[149.52 --> 154.22]  at-home machine i do this gesture with my head sorry everyone i did this weird thing it's uh i'm in
[154.22 --> 158.24]  my home and i'm like my room's over there yeah arc is over there i thought you had a web browser
[158.24 --> 164.02]  laying over there on the floor i really like arc um i like the concept of it
[164.02 --> 169.76]  with apple one of the things that was frustrating is yes the very nice experience the majority of the
[169.76 --> 175.78]  time but at the times where something was going wrong you're completely helpless yeah and boy oh boy
[175.78 --> 181.30]  is that the opposite feeling where you're like i cannot do anything i have to go to the store
[181.30 --> 189.28]  in person wait with everyone else and i'm i'm a helpless little i'm just a helpless little man
[189.28 --> 195.54]  like i can't fix it you know help me please your protected environments your walled garden
[195.54 --> 201.70]  there's some poo on the ground and i don't have any gloves you know like right and i don't know so
[201.70 --> 206.20]  that's the trade-off yeah it is it's all trade-offs with safari in particular it's not my only browser
[206.20 --> 210.08]  it's just my it's just my default browser you know so like i will just go use a different browser
[210.08 --> 216.48]  and i don't use it for dev because i love the dev tools and chrome based browsers i use brave myself
[216.48 --> 220.46]  just for dev i use brave for dev and safari for for daily driving and then when something doesn't
[220.46 --> 224.70]  work in safari i just pop it open and brave i've got firefox installed i have arc installed i got them
[224.70 --> 231.38]  all i just prefer the warm embrace of apple and when there's poo inside my warm embrace i guess i just
[231.38 --> 238.74]  embrace it just embrace it what else are you gonna do like you said you got no moves there's nothing
[238.74 --> 243.96]  what else do when life gives you lemons uh you squeeze them you just embrace that pooey lemon
[243.96 --> 252.36]  yep yep yeah i stuck with the twitter train after all the other social networks popped up i still i
[252.36 --> 257.94]  feel like it actually shook up twitter a little bit where like i feel like twitter is a little bit better
[257.94 --> 263.12]  now because some folks left to different places and then like things aligned a little bit is anybody
[263.12 --> 267.10]  else besides adam trying out like blue sky or mastodon or any of the new networks
[267.10 --> 273.00]  so let me give a practical example since we're talking about redwood we've tied ourselves to graph
[273.00 --> 278.82]  ql and at one point it was like this is a fantastic decision and i still think that it's a good decision
[278.82 --> 283.66]  but tech twitter will tell you it's terrible we hate graph ql get away from it go away but you go look
[283.66 --> 288.92]  at enterprise and all the money and all the people that are using graph ql are all enterprise people so
[288.92 --> 293.58]  there's still some good decision there but like who decides this is a good decision or a bad decision
[293.58 --> 299.52]  what point does graph ql become a benefit or tech debt you know a lot of it depends on your use case
[299.52 --> 305.54]  but like who decide who made the decision graph ql is good or bad well tom did didn't he
[305.54 --> 311.90]  well in the case of redwood the answer is actually really simple but like but like from a community
[311.90 --> 322.26]  was that rhetorical or okay this is a changelog plus plus exclusive so if you want to hear the
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