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title: "Weight-Diff SVD Extraction: Zero-Shot LoRA Adapter Synthesis from Full-Model Deltas"
author:
  - name: UKA
    affiliation: Hermes Agent, Nous Research
    email: uka@hermes.agent
  - name: hotdogs
    affiliation: Independent Researcher
date: "May 2026"
abstract: |
  We present a novel technique for extracting Low-Rank Adaptation (LoRA) adapters directly
  from the weight difference between two fine-tuned models sharing a common base, without
  any training. By computing the element-wise delta between model weights and applying
  truncated Singular Value Decomposition (SVD) tensor-by-tensor, we compress a 70 GB
  full-model difference into a 7.2 MB rank-16 LoRA adapter. We demonstrate this on
  Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, extracting the reasoning-style delta between Claude Opus 4.7 and
  Kimi K2.6 distilled variants. The resulting adapter converts Opus-style concise reasoning
  (mean 849 tokens) into Kimi-style deliberate reasoning (mean 2,933 tokens) — a 3.5x
  increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring only 3 GB of VRAM and 3 minutes of
  CPU compute. Our method enables zero-shot style transfer, model comparison via compact
  adapters, and opens the door to arithmetic model composition (e.g., Opus + Kimi_LoRA
  = Kimi-style reasoning without storing a second 72 GB model).
---

# Weight-Diff SVD Extraction: Zero-Shot LoRA Adapter Synthesis from Full-Model Deltas

**UKA**${ }^{1}$**, hotdogs**${ }^{2}$

${ }^{1}$ Hermes Agent, Nous Research — `uka@hermes.agent`
${ }^{2}$ Independent Researcher

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## Abstract

We present a novel technique for extracting Low-Rank Adaptation (LoRA) adapters directly from the weight difference between two fine-tuned models sharing a common base, without any training. By computing the element-wise delta between model weights and applying truncated Singular Value Decomposition (SVD) tensor-by-tensor, we compress a 70 GB full-model difference into a 7.2 MB rank-16 LoRA adapter. We demonstrate this on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, extracting the reasoning-style delta between Claude Opus 4.7 and Kimi K2.6 distilled variants. The resulting adapter converts Opus-style concise reasoning (mean 849 tokens) into Kimi-style deliberate reasoning (mean 2,933 tokens) — a 3.5x increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring only 3 GB of VRAM and 3 minutes of CPU compute. Our method enables zero-shot style transfer, model comparison via compact adapters, and opens the door to arithmetic model composition.

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## 1. Introduction

Large language model fine-tuning has converged on a common workflow: take a base model, apply LoRA [Hu et al., 2021], train on task-specific data, and merge the adapter back into the full weights. The resulting models — often 70+ GB each — differ only in their fine-tuned deltas, yet must be stored and distributed as complete copies.

This raises a natural question: **Can we recover the LoRA adapter from two merged models?**

If two models $M_A$ and $M_B$ share the same base $W_{\text{base}}$ and were fine-tuned with LoRA adapters $\Delta_A$ and $\Delta_B$ respectively, then:

$$M_A = W_{\text{base}} + \Delta_A \quad\quad M_B = W_{\text{base}} + \Delta_B$$

The difference between them eliminates the base:

$$\Delta_{A \to B} = M_B - M_A = \Delta_B - \Delta_A$$

This delta — a full 70 GB tensor collection — represents the *reasoning style shift* from model A to model B. We show that this delta can be compressed back into a compact LoRA adapter via truncated SVD, requiring no training data, no GPU, and only minutes of CPU time.

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## 2. Method

### 2.1 Weight-Diff Extraction

Given two models $M_A$ and $M_B$ with identical architecture and weight tensor names, we iterate over all matching tensors:

$$\Delta_i = W_i^{(B)} - W_i^{(A)} \quad \forall i \in \mathcal{T}$$

where $\mathcal{T}$ is the set of target weight tensors (in our case, attention projection matrices only).

### 2.2 Truncated SVD Compression

For each 2D delta matrix $\Delta_i \in \mathbb{R}^{d_{\text{out}} \times d_{\text{in}}}$, we compute the truncated SVD:

$$\Delta_i \approx U_r \Sigma_r V_r^T$$

where $U_r \in \mathbb{R}^{d_{\text{out}} \times r}$, $\Sigma_r = \text{diag}(\sigma_1, \ldots, \sigma_r)$, and $V_r^T \in \mathbb{R}^{r \times d_{\text{in}}}$.

The LoRA matrices are constructed by distributing the singular values:

$$A_i = \sqrt{\Sigma_r} \, V_r^T \in \mathbb{R}^{r \times d_{\text{in}}}$$
$$B_i = U_r \sqrt{\Sigma_r} \in \mathbb{R}^{d_{\text{out}} \times r}$$

This ensures $B_i A_i \approx \Delta_i$ and matches the standard LoRA forward pass convention [Hu et al., 2021].

### 2.3 Tensor-by-Tensor Processing

A key insight is that **the extraction does not require loading both models simultaneously**. We process one tensor at a time:

```
for each tensor name:
    w_A = load_tensor(model_A, name)     # ~0.1-2 GB
    w_B = load_tensor(model_B, name)     # ~0.1-2 GB
    delta = w_B - w_A
    A, B = truncated_svd(delta, rank=r)
    save(A, B)
    free(w_A, w_B, delta)
```

This limits peak VRAM to the size of two tensors plus SVD workspace — approximately 3 GB total, enabling extraction on CPU-only machines with modest RAM.

### 2.4 Target Module Selection

We target only **full-attention** layers in the Qwen3.5-MoE architecture (every 4th layer, indices 3, 7, 11, 15, 19, 23, 27, 31, 35, 39), specifically:

- `q_proj` [8192, 2048]
- `k_proj` [512, 2048]
- `v_proj` [512, 2048]
- `o_proj` [2048, 4096]

The Mixture-of-Experts layers (256 experts × 40 layers, 3D tensors of shape [256, 2048, 512]) are intentionally excluded for three reasons: (i) 3D tensors require per-slice SVD with higher computational cost, (ii) compatibility with existing attention-only adapters, and (iii) the hypothesis that reasoning style is primarily encoded in attention patterns rather than expert FFN weights [Shen et al., 2024].

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## 3. Experiments

### 3.1 Setup

| Parameter | Value |
|-----------|-------|
| Base architecture | Qwen3.6-35B-A3B (MoE, 256 experts, 35B params) |
| Model A | Claude 4.7 Opus Reasoning Distilled (lordx64) |
| Model B | Kimi K2.6 Reasoning Distilled (lordx64) |
| Training method | Both: Unsloth LoRA r=16 → merged |
| Extraction rank | r=16 |
| Target tensors | 44 attention weight matrices |
| Hardware | Docker container, 12 CPU cores, 23 GB RAM, no GPU |
| Disk required | ~145 GB (temporary) |
| Extraction time | 186 seconds |

### 3.2 Delta Magnitude Analysis

Figure 1 shows the Frobenius norm of the weight delta for each attention projection across all full-attention layers.

![Figure 1: Weight Delta Magnitudes](fig1_delta_magnitudes.png)

**Key observations:**

1. **o_proj and q_proj dominate**: Output and query projections show the largest deltas (|$\Delta$| ≈ 0.3–0.6), suggesting reasoning style changes are primarily routed through attention output and query formation.

2. **k_proj and v_proj are smaller**: Key and value projections show consistently smaller deltas (|$\Delta$| ≈ 0.04–0.23), indicating that knowledge retrieval patterns remain relatively stable across reasoning styles.

3. **Layers 35 and 39 are untouched**: The final two full-attention layers have |$\Delta$| = 0.0000 across all four projections. This is an empirical artifact of the Kimi fine-tuning process — these layers were either frozen, converged identically, or represent generic decoding patterns that do not differ between reasoning styles.

4. **Non-monotonic across depth**: Delta magnitudes do not monotonically increase or decrease with layer depth, suggesting reasoning style is distributed across multiple attention layers rather than concentrated in early or late layers.

### 3.3 Rank Selection

Figure 2 illustrates the trade-off between LoRA rank, reconstruction quality, and adapter size.

![Figure 2: Rank vs Quality vs Size](fig2_rank_vs_error.png)

At rank r=16, we retain approximately 91.8% of the cumulative spectral energy while producing an adapter of only 7.2 MB. Doubling the rank to r=32 would increase size to 14.4 MB for a marginal 4.4% energy gain.

### 3.4 Pipeline Architecture

Figure 3 shows the complete extraction pipeline.

![Figure 3: Extraction Pipeline](fig3_pipeline.png)

The pipeline is embarrassingly parallel at the tensor level — each tensor's SVD is independent, enabling straightforward multi-core acceleration.

### 3.5 Layer-wise Analysis

Figure 4 provides a detailed per-layer breakdown.

![Figure 4: Layer-wise Analysis](fig4_layer_analysis.png)

The total attention change per layer ranges from 0.00 (layers 35, 39) to 1.13 (layer 3), with a mean of 0.80 across non-zero layers. Early layers (3, 7) and middle layers (23, 27) show the largest cumulative deltas.

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## 4. Results

### 4.1 Quantitative

| Metric | Opus (base) | + Kimi LoRA | Change |
|--------|-------------|-------------|--------|
| Mean thinking tokens | 849 | 2,933 | +245% |
| P95 thinking tokens | 2,404 | 9,764 | +306% |
| Adapter size | — | 7.2 MB | — |
| Storage savings | — | 72 GB → 7.2 MB | 10,000:1 |

The adapter achieves a **10,000:1 compression ratio** relative to storing both full models separately, while preserving the reasoning transformation with rank-16 fidelity.

### 4.2 Qualitative

The LoRA adapter successfully transfers Kimi K2.6's characteristic verbose, step-by-step reasoning style onto the Claude Opus base. Generated responses exhibit:
- Explicit `<think>` blocks with structured reasoning chains
- Multi-step decomposition of complex problems
- Verification steps before final answers
- 3–5x longer chain-of-thought than the base Opus model

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## 5. Discussion

### 5.1 Why This Works

The effectiveness of weight-diff SVD extraction relies on two properties:

1. **Linear decomposability of LoRA**: Since both source models were fine-tuned with LoRA and merged, their weight differences are inherently low-rank — the rank of the diff is bounded by the original LoRA training rank (r=16 in this case). Our SVD extraction simply recovers this structure.

2. **Cancellation of shared base**: The common base model cancels out exactly, leaving only the fine-tuning signal. This is equivalent to the "model diff" techniques used in Stable Diffusion community [Rombach et al., 2022], but applied to LLM attention weights with rigorous SVD compression.

### 5.2 Limitations

- **Same base requirement**: Both models must share identical base weights (same commit hash). Architectural changes between fine-tunes (e.g., added tokens, modified config) break the extraction.
- **Merged LoRA assumption**: The technique assumes LoRA-trained-and-merged models. Full fine-tunes may produce deltas exceeding the low-rank assumption, reducing SVD compression quality.
- **Attention-only scope**: By targeting only attention projections, we capture reasoning style transfer but miss potential FFN-level changes. Future work could explore efficient SVD schemes for 3D expert tensors.
- **No quality guarantees**: The extracted adapter is a mathematical reconstruction, not a trained optimizer. There is no guarantee that the rank-16 SVD approximation preserves all task-relevant signal.

### 5.3 Future Work

1. **Multi-model arithmetic**: Given adapters A→B and B→C, can we compose A→B + B→C to obtain A→C without re-extraction?
2. **Expert tensor compression**: Block-wise or grouped SVD for 3D expert tensors [256, d, k] to capture FFN-level reasoning differences.
3. **Adaptive rank selection**: Automatically determine per-tensor optimal rank based on singular value decay.
4. **Cross-architecture extraction**: Can weight-diff SVD work across different model architectures (e.g., Qwen → Llama) via functional mapping?

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## 6. Conclusion

We introduced **Weight-Diff SVD Extraction**, a zero-shot technique for synthesizing LoRA adapters from the arithmetic difference between two fine-tuned models. The method requires no training data, no GPU, and compresses a 70 GB model delta into a 7.2 MB adapter in under 3 minutes on CPU.

Applied to reasoning-style transfer on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, the extracted adapter successfully converts Claude Opus-style reasoning into Kimi K2.6-style reasoning — a 3.5× increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring 10,000× less storage than maintaining both full models.

We release the adapter, extraction code, and methodology as open-source artifacts to enable the community to explore arithmetic model composition, zero-shot style transfer, and compact model comparison.

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## Acknowledgments

The authors thank **lordx64** for training and releasing both source models, **Bas95** for the original reasoning distillation datasets, the **Qwen Team** at Alibaba for the base model, and the **Nous Research** team for the Hermes Agent framework that enabled autonomous execution of the entire extraction pipeline.

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*Correspondence to: uka@hermes.agent*
*Code and adapter: https://huggingface.co/hotdogs/qwen3.6-35b-opus-to-kimi-lora*