---
license: apache-2.0
base_model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
base_model_relation: quantized
pipeline_tag: image-text-to-text
library_name: mlx
language:
  - en
  - zh
tags:
  - abliterated
  - qwen3.8
  - qwen3_5
  - uncensored
  - ai-red-team
  - red-teaming
  - mlx
  - apple-silicon
  - quantized
  - 4-bit
  - 8-bit
  - vision-language
  - image-text-to-text
  - multimodal
  - function-calling
  - reasoning
---

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<h1>Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX</h1>

<p><em>An abliterated (refusal-removed) MLX build of Qwen's Qwen3.8-27B — 2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit for Apple Silicon</em></p>

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> An **abliterated** (refusal-removed) build of
> [`Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B`](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B) — a 27B-parameter dense,
> hybrid-attention (Gated DeltaNet linear + full attention) native vision-language model with
> thinking control, tool-calling and an MTP head — quantized to **MLX** format for
> **Apple Silicon**. Four precisions are provided as subfolders: **2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit**
> (affine, group size 64). The **vision tower, norms and conv layers are kept in BF16**;
> only the language-model linear weights (including `embed_tokens` / `lm_head`) are quantized.
> Browse all models in the [OrcaRouter Model Catalog](https://www.orcarouter.ai/models).
> This model is deployed as API [here](https://www.orcarouter.ai/models/obsidian/qwen3.8-27b).

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## ⚠️ Disclaimer & risks — read before use

This model has had its **safety alignment substantially removed** via *abliteration*
(orthogonalizing the refusal direction out of the residual stream). As a direct consequence:

- **It will comply with harmful, unethical, offensive, or illegal requests** that the
  original `Qwen3.8-27B` would refuse. It has no meaningful built-in guardrails.
- It is released **strictly for legitimate research** — interpretability, AI-safety and
  refusal-mechanism study, red-teaming, robustness evaluation, and controlled experiments.
- **You assume full responsibility and liability** for how you use it and for everything it
  generates. Add your own safety, moderation and abuse-prevention layers before any deployment.
- Use must comply with the **[Apache 2.0 License](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0)**
  inherited from the base model, and all laws and regulations that apply to you.
- The authors and uploaders **accept no liability** for any misuse or harm. Outputs do **not**
  reflect the views of the uploaders or of Qwen / Alibaba.

### Specific risks

- **Harmful content on demand** — it will produce instructions for malware, exploits, weapons,
  fraud and other illegal or dangerous activity when asked.
- **No refusals** — jailbreak / safety probes "succeed" trivially; do not mistake this for a
  passing safety evaluation.
- **Confident falsehoods & bias** — it can generate false, defamatory, biased or offensive text
  and present it authoritatively.
- **Expanded attack surface** — preserved **vision, tool-calling and 262K context** mean these
  risks extend to image understanding and autonomous / agentic use.
- **Quantization noise** — lower-bit builds (esp. **2-bit**) add instability on top of the above;
  outputs can be degraded or nonsensical.

### Intended use vs out of scope

- **Intended:** AI-safety and interpretability research, refusal-mechanism study, red-teaming,
  guardrail and robustness evaluation, controlled academic experiments.
- **Out of scope:** any deployment to end users, minors, or production **without your own
  moderation / safety layer**; any unlawful, harmful, or rights-infringing use.

By downloading or using this model you acknowledge and accept the above.

---

## Available quantizations

| Folder | Bits/weight | Size | Shards | Min Mac RAM | Quality vs BF16 source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| `8-bit/` | 8.627 | ~27.5 GB | 6 | 32 GB | **Near-lossless** — recommended for quality |
| `6-bit/` | 6.661 | ~22 GB | 5 | 24–32 GB | Excellent — strong quality/size balance |
| `4-bit/` | 4.695 | ~15 GB | 3 | 24 GB | Very good — recommended default |
| `2-bit/` | 2.729 | ~8.7 GB | 2 | 16 GB | ⚠️ **Severely degraded — archival only** |

> **2-bit warning:** at 27B, 2-bit quantization collapses generation quality (repetition
> loops, garbled output). It is included only as an extreme-compression archive; **do not use
> it for real work** — prefer 4-bit or higher.

---

## Verification & test results

All builds were quantized from the same abliterated BF16 source and verified numerically
(dequantized weights vs. source) plus tested by generation on GPU.

| Precision | Numerical fidelity (cosine) | Text / Chinese / Code | Refusal probes | Vision |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| **8-bit** | cos **0.9997** | ✅ | ✅ 0 refusals | ✅ |
| **6-bit** | cos **0.9996** | ✅ | ✅ 0 refusals | ✅ |
| **4-bit** | cos **0.996** | ✅ | ✅ 0 refusals | ✅ |
| **2-bit** | cos **0.92** | ⚠️ breaks down | ⚠️ garbled (not refusal) | partial |

- **Uncensored preserved:** red-team probes (exploit walkthrough, controversial argument)
  return substantive content with **zero refusals** on 4 / 6 / 8-bit.
- **Multimodal preserved:** shapes, colors, position, background and text in a probe image are
  described correctly on 4 / 6 / 8-bit.
- **Speed:** ~**32–37 tok/s** steady-state on a single H200 (MLX CUDA backend). MLX's native
  target is Apple Silicon (Metal).

> Note: on **6-bit**, mlx's offline `mx.dequantize` mis-unpacks these weights (a library edge
> case), so correctness is verified by clean generation — inference is unaffected.

---

## Usage (mlx-vlm, Apple Silicon)

```bash
pip install -U mlx-vlm    # needs mlx-vlm >= 0.6.13, mlx >= 0.32

# download one precision (e.g. 4-bit) from the subfolder
hf download orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX --include "4-bit/*" \
    --local-dir ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX

# text
python -m mlx_vlm generate \
    --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit \
    --prompt "Explain quantum entanglement in one sentence." --max-tokens 256

# vision (image + text)
python -m mlx_vlm generate \
    --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit \
    --image path/to/image.png \
    --prompt "Describe this image." --max-tokens 256

# OpenAI-compatible server
python -m mlx_vlm server --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit --port 8080
```

On **Apple Silicon** the Metal backend is used automatically — no CUDA setup needed.
(On a Linux **CUDA** backend, vision requires `MLX_CUDA_USE_CUDNN_SDPA=0`; this does not
apply on macOS.)

---

## Model details

| | |
|---|---|
| **Base model** | [`Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B`](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B) |
| **Architecture** | `Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration` — 64 layers, hidden 5120, hybrid **Gated DeltaNet** (48 linear + 16 full attention, interval 4), native VL tower |
| **Modification** | Abliteration (refusal-direction removal), then **MLX affine quantization** |
| **Quantization** | MLX **affine**, group size **64**, per-precision 2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit |
| **Kept in BF16** | vision tower, all norms, linear-attention `conv1d` |
| **Quantized** | language-model linear layers incl. `embed_tokens` and `lm_head` |
| **Context** | 262,144 tokens |