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[00:00:01.33 -> 00:00:07.11] John: Welcome everybody to a brand new program on the pod show network which could be |
[00:00:07.11 -> 00:00:11.83] John: titled a number of things we chose no agenda but it could be the show with no |
[00:00:11.83 -> 00:00:20.09] John: imaging no no no content yet the only thing it is is two guys with an idea of |
[00:00:20.09 -> 00:00:25.99] John: putting together a what should we call it John a agenda list show agenda list |
[00:00:25.99 -> 00:00:32.73] Announcer: the show exactly uh john c devorak in california adam curry here in london something we cooked up |
[00:00:32.73 -> 00:00:36.69] John: uh what was it like a four minute phone call hey we should do a show together okay |
[00:00:37.27 -> 00:00:43.27] John: uh let's call it no agenda okay and here we are well of course the basis for a show like this uh |
[00:00:43.27 -> 00:00:48.05] Unknown: and i think everybody out there who's ever had a kind of who has conversations with friends |
[00:00:49.09 -> 00:00:53.31] Unknown: they occasionally especially when the conversations go on and on say you know that would have been an |
[00:00:53.31 -> 00:00:59.51] Unknown: interesting thing for other people to listen to true true and and i think basically uh and i've |
[00:00:59.51 -> 00:01:03.91] Unknown: in fact actually thought about doing a show with my wife because sometimes she does a news analysis |
[00:01:03.91 -> 00:01:08.83] Unknown: over the phone sometimes it's pretty pretty astonishing have you ever heard the shows i do |
[00:01:08.83 -> 00:01:13.99] Unknown: with patricia with my wife yeah same kind of thing it's great right we just have a conversation yeah |
[00:01:13.99 -> 00:01:19.21] Unknown: right i think you know to some extent don and drew and so almost everybody who you know |
[00:01:19.21 -> 00:01:27.45] Unknown: know like to chat yeah uh pretty much um provides this kind of entertainment so you know this week |
[00:01:27.45 -> 00:01:32.93] Unknown: well i mean we're starting up we're running on skype for anybody out there so and adam being |
[00:01:32.93 -> 00:01:36.43] Unknown: in london is going to probably going to we're going to step on each other once in a while |
[00:01:36.43 -> 00:01:44.33] Unknown: but this week adam did a thing uh an interview with the senator or i guess he's a congressman |
[00:01:44.33 -> 00:01:52.79] Unknown: yeah where's he from texas the texas congressman ron paul republican texas congressman ron paul |
[00:01:52.79 -> 00:02:00.50] John: yeah yeah so what did you think well um so you know first of all it was kind of interesting |
[00:02:00.50 -> 00:02:04.52] John: uh that i got this thing together in like a week and i didn't really have to do anything i just |
[00:02:04.52 -> 00:02:09.54] John: said on the show i want to talk to this guy and it happened that that would that to me was a big uh |
[00:02:09.54 -> 00:02:15.00] John: a big oh wow and I don't know what it means says about him his campaign or or my show or |
[00:02:15.00 -> 00:02:19.54] John: podcasting or whatever alternative media in general but I thought that that was cool just as |
[00:02:19.54 -> 00:02:28.01] John: it is um was he on skype no he was on a on a landline I I did it on skype though okay did |
[00:02:28.01 -> 00:02:34.37] Unknown: you not like the quality no I was I was I was thinking he was on skype and I'm going to myself |
[00:02:34.37 -> 00:02:37.79] Unknown: or thinking to myself, huh, that's pretty weird. |
[00:02:37.83 -> 00:02:39.39] Unknown: If a guy's on Skype, then he's, you know, |
[00:02:39.41 -> 00:02:43.95] Unknown: I just don't see congressmen as being that savvy about anything. |
[00:02:44.33 -> 00:02:46.85] John: Yeah, and I asked him a couple questions, you know, |
[00:02:46.85 -> 00:02:49.93] John: about net neutrality and some other Internet-related things, |
[00:02:50.13 -> 00:02:52.39] John: and it's kind of hard to gauge how savvy he is. |
[00:02:52.45 -> 00:02:54.89] John: First of all, he's a very smart guy in general, I mean, |
[00:02:54.93 -> 00:02:59.15] John: and very, very, he's a good communicator, |
[00:02:59.15 -> 00:03:03.31] John: knows how to be an interviewee. |
[00:03:03.31 -> 00:03:13.93] John: I loved it when he, you know, you could hear his aide, it was probably Jesse, you know, whispering something in his ear, which actually wasn't a whisper because I heard it quite clearly. |
[00:03:14.07 -> 00:03:18.49] John: And then, you know, and then Paul goes, Ron Paul goes, let me just suggest something else to you. |
[00:03:18.57 -> 00:03:19.77] John: I have a couple more minutes. |
[00:03:19.95 -> 00:03:20.95] John: I'm like, oh, fuck. |
[00:03:21.71 -> 00:03:24.27] John: All right, let me get this folder scruncher in there real quick. |
[00:03:27.05 -> 00:03:29.77] Unknown: Well, that's a shame that people have to do that all the time now. |
[00:03:29.77 -> 00:03:35.11] Unknown: Now, so anyway, I made notes on the I listened to the the interview and I made a bunch of notes. |
[00:03:35.25 -> 00:03:37.81] Unknown: OK, and I want to go over a few of them with you. |
[00:03:37.83 -> 00:03:46.66] Unknown: Cool. One is your you insisted on calling him Dr. Ron as though he's like a disc jockey. |
[00:03:46.84 -> 00:03:50.53] Unknown: I thought that was highly funny. |
[00:03:50.67 -> 00:03:56.39] John: Well, I'm glad you'd like that because I like giving people names, you know, because we've got comic strip blogger. |
[00:03:56.39 -> 00:04:02.61] John: we've got a prolific programmer and dr ron in fact all medical doctors who i who i meet i call |
[00:04:02.61 -> 00:04:09.11] John: dr ron or doctor at least they not if they're pete i call him dr pete but um i'm glad you like |
[00:04:09.11 -> 00:04:13.97] Unknown: that he didn't seem to mind well you know he told you to call him ron but you said i'm gonna |
[00:04:13.97 -> 00:04:21.57] Unknown: i'd rather call you dr ron and he said whatever yeah but doesn't that sound much better you know |
[00:04:21.57 -> 00:04:24.91] John: Dr. Ron, it's a German thing, actually. |
[00:04:25.39 -> 00:04:28.63] John: If you are a professor or you're a doctor in Germany. |
[00:04:28.65 -> 00:04:28.99] John: That's where you got that. |
[00:04:30.01 -> 00:04:34.17] Unknown: Since people are going to start listening to this show, they might as well realize a couple of things here. |
[00:04:34.23 -> 00:04:41.41] Unknown: One of them is that I'm an American, and Adam is technically an American, but he is a European. |
[00:04:41.83 -> 00:04:47.55] Unknown: And so one of the reasons we want to do this show is so we can kind of bring some cultural togetherness out there. |
[00:04:48.09 -> 00:04:50.45] Unknown: I'm a world citizen, John, not just a European. |
[00:04:52.44 -> 00:04:52.70] Unknown: You're what? |
[00:04:52.80 -> 00:04:53.72] Unknown: A world citizen. |
[00:04:54.22 -> 00:04:55.04] Unknown: Yeah, a world citizen. |
[00:04:55.10 -> 00:04:57.52] Unknown: That's what guys like you like to call yourselves. |
[00:04:57.60 -> 00:04:57.86] Unknown: Yes. |
[00:04:57.90 -> 00:04:58.18] Unknown: Yeah. |
[00:04:58.80 -> 00:04:59.52] Unknown: Fuck you. |
[00:05:00.10 -> 00:05:03.64] Unknown: Go to China and use that and see how far you get. |
[00:05:03.82 -> 00:05:04.18] Unknown: Okay. |
[00:05:06.12 -> 00:05:08.16] Unknown: So when they arrest you, that is. |
[00:05:08.96 -> 00:05:11.80] Unknown: So anyway, so I got the biggest kick out of this, Dr. Ron. |
[00:05:11.80 -> 00:05:13.62] Unknown: And you ran it through the whole show. |
[00:05:13.72 -> 00:05:16.66] Unknown: You always, you know, when you brought his name, it was always Dr. Ron. |
[00:05:16.68 -> 00:05:23.00] John: Well, yeah, but that's logical because I need, you know, because if and I watch a lot of interviews and a lot of things he's done. |
[00:05:23.00 -> 00:05:29.46] John: And and people are always addressed. You know, everyone has a way to address someone in in the media landscape. Right. |
[00:05:29.58 -> 00:05:33.98] John: And so with him, it's like Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Paul. |
[00:05:34.16 -> 00:05:38.10] John: You know, the whole Ron Paul, like two first names is kind of weird to start with. |
[00:05:38.20 -> 00:05:45.38] John: So I just felt it would be easier if I just called him Dr. Ron, because then I knew I wouldn't be stumbling over Congressman Paul. |
[00:05:45.58 -> 00:05:49.08] Unknown: You know, right, right, right. Yeah. The two first names thing. |
[00:05:49.08 -> 00:05:54.16] Unknown: you know it's almost like a hollywood name from the 30s so anyway then the other thing i wrote |
[00:05:54.16 -> 00:06:00.60] Unknown: down on this little notepad of mine was um people should go back there and listen to this interview |
[00:06:00.60 -> 00:06:08.58] Unknown: uh again because adam i think he spends about four and a half hours kissing the guy's ass and |
[00:06:08.58 -> 00:06:15.14] Unknown: chatting before he even lets paul speak one word yeah you know people mention that to me and and i'm |
[00:06:15.14 -> 00:06:19.66] John: I'm like, and I'll bet they did, but you know, it's like, here's what I didn't do. |
[00:06:19.72 -> 00:06:21.38] John: I didn't interrupt the guy continuously. |
[00:06:21.68 -> 00:06:23.74] John: All I wanted was to just hear what he had to say. |
[00:06:23.80 -> 00:06:27.54] John: We had agreed that, you know, I would just, you know, and that's what I wanted. |
[00:06:27.62 -> 00:06:30.40] John: You know, it's like, okay, I'm going to throw something at you. |
[00:06:30.44 -> 00:06:32.08] John: Talk about it until you stop talking. |
[00:06:32.18 -> 00:06:33.90] John: So I figured I'd get on my talking up front. |
[00:06:34.04 -> 00:06:37.78] John: I was very sincere by the way, about, uh, about what I said at the beginning. |
[00:06:38.36 -> 00:06:40.96] John: Uh, and yeah, I meant that. |
[00:06:41.66 -> 00:06:43.64] John: and also this guy |
[00:06:43.64 -> 00:06:45.52] John: and it was very clear at the end |
[00:06:45.52 -> 00:06:46.84] John: he doesn't know what my show is about |
[00:06:46.84 -> 00:06:48.04] John: he doesn't know who I am |
[00:06:48.04 -> 00:06:50.06] John: so I've got to give the guy a little bit of background |
[00:06:50.06 -> 00:06:53.08] John: because you just can't count on anyone else to do that |
[00:06:53.08 -> 00:06:54.22] John: that's why I did it |
[00:06:56.04 -> 00:06:57.66] Unknown: I'm going to read from my notepad |
[00:06:57.66 -> 00:06:59.40] Unknown: if you want to know what I wrote down |
[00:06:59.40 -> 00:07:00.60] Unknown: as this was going on |
[00:07:01.92 -> 00:07:03.82] Unknown: long ass kissing moment |
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noagenda transcripts
This is the dataset for transcripts of the noagendashow.net podcast. The transcripts are in the data folder.
It also contains the source code for generating the transcripts, and the source code for the noagenda-transcripts.net website which searches the transcripts and plays the audio clips for each search result and takes you to the location in the transcript.
The code in the repo consists of 2 main parts:
- A Go CLI for transcribing the audio, creating the transcript text files, and also downloading and preparing the audio (chunking, re-encoding).
- Website ReactJS code and NodeJS API for searching
Architecture & update summer 2026
I originally wanted to archive the NoAgenda shows as it has a lot of information you won't find on Google etc. about American and global politics from the last 18 years. In particular you see how the mainstream media in the US reports the news. This was the main goal, but there was also quite a lot of arguing between John and Adam from around 2025 onwards and I'd hoped that if they could see the humour and rapport from older shows it might alleviate the tension. John and Adam joke about having an "exit strategy" in the shows, but No Agenda seems like it has been the well deserved exit strategy for both of them (based off the donations).
The previous codebase that processed the 1800 backlog of shows is in the diarization-docker-python-and-temporal branch. The README has details in that branch.
It would've cost over $2200 to process the archive of shows using OpenAI or Groq, so a custom solution was created using Runpod containers running a custom CUDA and Whisper Docker image. This cost around $400 in total. This container also diarized the transcripts (put a name by the person speaking) which ended up being inaccurate, even with labelling the speakers every 100 shows via pyannote/wespeaker-voxceleb-resnet34-LM.
The MP3 clips come from official No Agenda MP3s server. There is also IPFS Podcasting which has approximately the last 600 episodes. Since this Huggingface dataset was created, listennotes.com now has searching for transcripts, but it has the later transcripts not early ones from what I can tell.
Claude wrote the majority of the code, but needed a lot of correcting and reviewing along the way. It excels with AI/ML using Python, and writing Go command line apps, but v4 is not so great at choosing the right architecture for the system.
Getting started
You will need to install the following to run the transcript generation:
Read the /natranscripts/README.md for more details. You can use Whisper (which produces transcripts from audio) locally or using Groq or OpenAI. The CLI handles the local side of things for you, but you will need an NVIDIA card (unless you don't mind waiting 1 hour per episode).
Small note
(I'm not anti or pro-Trump) a few my favourite finds from the transcripts:
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