| [0.00 --> 16.68] what up party animals this front end feud pre-party episode is for changelog plus plus | |
| [16.68 --> 22.14] ears only but i pulled out a few minutes of awesome clips that we wanted to share with everyone | |
| [22.14 --> 27.44] here's the story we were all set to record front end feud last friday but at the 11th hour yuna | |
| [27.44 --> 33.24] had a home construction project that required her immediate attention so we rescheduled for a few | |
| [33.24 --> 39.12] days later but the rest of us had already cleared an hour on our schedules and gathered to record | |
| [39.12 --> 44.82] including compressed co-host amy dutton who unfortunately couldn't make it for the reschedule | |
| [44.82 --> 50.92] so adam argyle suggested we record something i hit the record button and we chatted about css as a | |
| [50.92 --> 56.70] programming language living in apple's walled garden how nobody is on the same social media sites anymore | |
| [56.70 --> 62.10] how to choose tech and the community's sentiment shift against graphql and a whole bunch more | |
| [62.10 --> 69.56] the full episode is 50 minutes here's a taste if i wanted to bug javascripters like they bug me about | |
| [69.56 --> 76.38] css not being a programming language i'd be like unless you're writing ones and zeros you ain't | |
| [76.38 --> 84.70] a programmer you're just writing a high level abstracted language too why's why's yours different | |
| [84.70 --> 88.98] than mine you know like all of these get turned into machine code unless you're writing the machine | |
| [88.98 --> 91.00] code you ain't a programmer get out of here | |
| [91.00 --> 97.62] i always appreciate it when like javascripters well like front ender specifically will be like | |
| [97.62 --> 102.86] then i drop into node.js because i want to get closer to the metal and i'm always like how far away | |
| [102.86 --> 107.82] from the metal you are right now yeah there's no metal there's no metal | |
| [107.82 --> 115.24] here's a question for you adam how many of the new css features are passive aggressive responses to | |
| [115.24 --> 120.32] this whole css is not a programming language they're like oh we'll show you well did you | |
| [120.32 --> 126.16] did you see the did you see the person that was making database queries and showing the results all | |
| [126.16 --> 133.48] from css i'll take your silence as a no what how were they how did they get that to happen | |
| [133.48 --> 143.38] so i have a random question for you adam yes how do you feel about like browsers that are chrome but | |
| [143.38 --> 149.52] not chrome i'm thinking like arc like built on top of chrome yep yeah i mean arc is my personal | |
| [149.52 --> 154.22] at-home machine i do this gesture with my head sorry everyone i did this weird thing it's uh i'm in | |
| [154.22 --> 158.24] my home and i'm like my room's over there yeah arc is over there i thought you had a web browser | |
| [158.24 --> 164.02] laying over there on the floor i really like arc um i like the concept of it | |
| [164.02 --> 169.76] with apple one of the things that was frustrating is yes the very nice experience the majority of the | |
| [169.76 --> 175.78] time but at the times where something was going wrong you're completely helpless yeah and boy oh boy | |
| [175.78 --> 181.30] is that the opposite feeling where you're like i cannot do anything i have to go to the store | |
| [181.30 --> 189.28] in person wait with everyone else and i'm i'm a helpless little i'm just a helpless little man | |
| [189.28 --> 195.54] like i can't fix it you know help me please your protected environments your walled garden | |
| [195.54 --> 201.70] there's some poo on the ground and i don't have any gloves you know like right and i don't know so | |
| [201.70 --> 206.20] that's the trade-off yeah it is it's all trade-offs with safari in particular it's not my only browser | |
| [206.20 --> 210.08] it's just my it's just my default browser you know so like i will just go use a different browser | |
| [210.08 --> 216.48] and i don't use it for dev because i love the dev tools and chrome based browsers i use brave myself | |
| [216.48 --> 220.46] just for dev i use brave for dev and safari for for daily driving and then when something doesn't | |
| [220.46 --> 224.70] work in safari i just pop it open and brave i've got firefox installed i have arc installed i got them | |
| [224.70 --> 231.38] all i just prefer the warm embrace of apple and when there's poo inside my warm embrace i guess i just | |
| [231.38 --> 238.74] embrace it just embrace it what else are you gonna do like you said you got no moves there's nothing | |
| [238.74 --> 243.96] what else do when life gives you lemons uh you squeeze them you just embrace that pooey lemon | |
| [243.96 --> 252.36] yep yep yeah i stuck with the twitter train after all the other social networks popped up i still i | |
| [252.36 --> 257.94] feel like it actually shook up twitter a little bit where like i feel like twitter is a little bit better | |
| [257.94 --> 263.12] now because some folks left to different places and then like things aligned a little bit is anybody | |
| [263.12 --> 267.10] else besides adam trying out like blue sky or mastodon or any of the new networks | |
| [267.10 --> 273.00] so let me give a practical example since we're talking about redwood we've tied ourselves to graph | |
| [273.00 --> 278.82] ql and at one point it was like this is a fantastic decision and i still think that it's a good decision | |
| [278.82 --> 283.66] but tech twitter will tell you it's terrible we hate graph ql get away from it go away but you go look | |
| [283.66 --> 288.92] at enterprise and all the money and all the people that are using graph ql are all enterprise people so | |
| [288.92 --> 293.58] there's still some good decision there but like who decides this is a good decision or a bad decision | |
| [293.58 --> 299.52] what point does graph ql become a benefit or tech debt you know a lot of it depends on your use case | |
| [299.52 --> 305.54] but like who decide who made the decision graph ql is good or bad well tom did didn't he | |
| [305.54 --> 311.90] well in the case of redwood the answer is actually really simple but like but like from a community | |
| [311.90 --> 322.26] was that rhetorical or okay this is a changelog plus plus exclusive so if you want to hear the | |
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