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Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX

An abliterated (refusal-removed) MLX build of Qwen's Qwen3.8-27B β€” 2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit for Apple Silicon

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An abliterated (refusal-removed) build of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B β€” a 27B-parameter dense, hybrid-attention (Gated DeltaNet linear + full attention) native vision-language model with thinking control, tool-calling and an MTP head β€” quantized to MLX format for Apple Silicon. Four precisions are provided as subfolders: 2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit (affine, group size 64). The vision tower, norms and conv layers are kept in BF16; only the language-model linear weights (including embed_tokens / lm_head) are quantized. Browse all models in the OrcaRouter Model Catalog. This model is deployed as API here.


⚠️ Disclaimer & risks β€” read before use

This model has had its safety alignment substantially removed via abliteration (orthogonalizing the refusal direction out of the residual stream). As a direct consequence:

  • It will comply with harmful, unethical, offensive, or illegal requests that the original Qwen3.8-27B would refuse. It has no meaningful built-in guardrails.
  • It is released strictly for legitimate research β€” interpretability, AI-safety and refusal-mechanism study, red-teaming, robustness evaluation, and controlled experiments.
  • You assume full responsibility and liability for how you use it and for everything it generates. Add your own safety, moderation and abuse-prevention layers before any deployment.
  • Use must comply with the Apache 2.0 License inherited from the base model, and all laws and regulations that apply to you.
  • The authors and uploaders accept no liability for any misuse or harm. Outputs do not reflect the views of the uploaders or of Qwen / Alibaba.

Specific risks

  • Harmful content on demand β€” it will produce instructions for malware, exploits, weapons, fraud and other illegal or dangerous activity when asked.
  • No refusals β€” jailbreak / safety probes "succeed" trivially; do not mistake this for a passing safety evaluation.
  • Confident falsehoods & bias β€” it can generate false, defamatory, biased or offensive text and present it authoritatively.
  • Expanded attack surface β€” preserved vision, tool-calling and 262K context mean these risks extend to image understanding and autonomous / agentic use.
  • Quantization noise β€” lower-bit builds (esp. 2-bit) add instability on top of the above; outputs can be degraded or nonsensical.

Intended use vs out of scope

  • Intended: AI-safety and interpretability research, refusal-mechanism study, red-teaming, guardrail and robustness evaluation, controlled academic experiments.
  • Out of scope: any deployment to end users, minors, or production without your own moderation / safety layer; any unlawful, harmful, or rights-infringing use.

By downloading or using this model you acknowledge and accept the above.


Available quantizations

Folder Bits/weight Size Shards Min Mac RAM Quality vs BF16 source
8-bit/ 8.627 ~27.5 GB 6 32 GB Near-lossless β€” recommended for quality
6-bit/ 6.661 ~22 GB 5 24–32 GB Excellent β€” strong quality/size balance
4-bit/ 4.695 ~15 GB 3 24 GB Very good β€” recommended default
2-bit/ 2.729 ~8.7 GB 2 16 GB ⚠️ Severely degraded β€” archival only

2-bit warning: at 27B, 2-bit quantization collapses generation quality (repetition loops, garbled output). It is included only as an extreme-compression archive; do not use it for real work β€” prefer 4-bit or higher.


Verification & test results

All builds were quantized from the same abliterated BF16 source and verified numerically (dequantized weights vs. source) plus tested by generation on GPU.

Precision Numerical fidelity (cosine) Text / Chinese / Code Refusal probes Vision
8-bit cos 0.9997 βœ… βœ… 0 refusals βœ…
6-bit cos 0.9996 βœ… βœ… 0 refusals βœ…
4-bit cos 0.996 βœ… βœ… 0 refusals βœ…
2-bit cos 0.92 ⚠️ breaks down ⚠️ garbled (not refusal) partial
  • Uncensored preserved: red-team probes (exploit walkthrough, controversial argument) return substantive content with zero refusals on 4 / 6 / 8-bit.
  • Multimodal preserved: shapes, colors, position, background and text in a probe image are described correctly on 4 / 6 / 8-bit.
  • Speed: ~32–37 tok/s steady-state on a single H200 (MLX CUDA backend). MLX's native target is Apple Silicon (Metal).

Note: on 6-bit, mlx's offline mx.dequantize mis-unpacks these weights (a library edge case), so correctness is verified by clean generation β€” inference is unaffected.


Usage (mlx-vlm, Apple Silicon)

pip install -U mlx-vlm    # needs mlx-vlm >= 0.6.13, mlx >= 0.32

# download one precision (e.g. 4-bit) from the subfolder
hf download orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX --include "4-bit/*" \
    --local-dir ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX

# text
python -m mlx_vlm generate \
    --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit \
    --prompt "Explain quantum entanglement in one sentence." --max-tokens 256

# vision (image + text)
python -m mlx_vlm generate \
    --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit \
    --image path/to/image.png \
    --prompt "Describe this image." --max-tokens 256

# OpenAI-compatible server
python -m mlx_vlm server --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MLX/4-bit --port 8080

On Apple Silicon the Metal backend is used automatically β€” no CUDA setup needed. (On a Linux CUDA backend, vision requires MLX_CUDA_USE_CUDNN_SDPA=0; this does not apply on macOS.)


Model details

Base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
Architecture Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration β€” 64 layers, hidden 5120, hybrid Gated DeltaNet (48 linear + 16 full attention, interval 4), native VL tower
Modification Abliteration (refusal-direction removal), then MLX affine quantization
Quantization MLX affine, group size 64, per-precision 2 / 4 / 6 / 8-bit
Kept in BF16 vision tower, all norms, linear-attention conv1d
Quantized language-model linear layers incl. embed_tokens and lm_head
Context 262,144 tokens
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