I'm genuinely impressed it is just a better Qwen 9B

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by Mk2Oracle - opened

I read the posts here, and that hasn't been my experience. And no, I don't need to invalidate anyone else's experience with the model.

I've been using Qwen 9B on my laptop's RTX 5080 for a while, and it is extremely hard for me to even recommend it. It never used tool calls properly, hallucinated, and so on. Using this model, though? IMO, it is in a league of its own. It is just all around better.

Asked it to patch a task that might be complex for these types of models? It investigated, analyzed, and did all the things I would expect at a bare minimum, things that not even Qwen 9B at the base level could do on its own.

It patched a Svelte application and PHP backend properly. I used it for creative writing as well, and I'm not going to say it did well. It quite didn't. I had to go through a lot of turns before we agreed on a tone, format, etc., and then it turned out okay-ish.

And frankly, I've been wanting a model like this. I've used Gemma models, and they all ended in disappointment. Qwen models as well, although Qwen 3.8 is extremely promising.

I used the AtomicChat model here are the flags

things that did really suck:
vision is bad.... or well, mediocre at best.
again, creative writing it needs a lot of polishing
for article writing (non-fiction): if you tell it to generate a op-ed article example then devolves into some fictional story as it goes missing the whole purpose of the first ask. there's some really weird business going on with writing. i had to like do several turns before it understood the assignment.

llama.cpp

AtomicChat--Ornith-1.5-9B-GGUF/Ornith-1.5-9B-AD-Q5_K-Q4_K.gguf -ngl auto -fa on -c 131072 -b 4096 -ub 2048 -ctk q8_0 -ctv q8_0 -n 8192 --perf --reasoning on --reasoning-preserve --reasoning-budget 2048 --jinja --chat-template-kwargs '"'"'{"enable_thinking":true,"preserve_thinking":true}'"'"' --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --presence-penalty 0.0 --repeat-penalty 1.0 --min-p 0.00 --mmproj /root/.cache/huggingface/hub/models--AtomicChat--Ornith-1.5-9B-GGUF/snapshots/8fc2368e779489ae43607253fc392ec2acae46f3/mmproj-Ornith-1.5-9B-BF16.gguf --image-max-tokens 4096 --image-min-tokens 1024 --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8000 --timeout 7200 --sse-ping-interval 15 --sleep-idle-seconds -1 

Replying here with same observation. However word of advice. Do not touch lower than Q8 flat default llama.cpp quants. Q4_k_m is absolute waste of time if using it in some other than chat. Go for q8 or for example atleast Quality-36 from here Soulfate24/Ornith-1.5-9B-ASHQ1-Remix-GGUF.

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