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title: >-
  Weight-Diff SVD Extraction: Zero-Shot LoRA Adapter Synthesis from Full-Model
  Deltas
author:
  - name: UKA
    affiliation: Hermes Agent, Nous Research
    email: uka@hermes.agent
  - name: hotdogs
    affiliation: Independent Researcher
date: May 2026
abstract: >
  We present a novel technique for extracting Low-Rank Adaptation (LoRA)
  adapters directly

  from the weight difference between two fine-tuned models sharing a common
  base, without

  any training. By computing the element-wise delta between model weights and
  applying

  truncated Singular Value Decomposition (SVD) tensor-by-tensor, we compress a
  70 GB

  full-model difference into a 7.2 MB rank-16 LoRA adapter. We demonstrate this
  on

  Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, extracting the reasoning-style delta between Claude Opus 4.7
  and

  Kimi K2.6 distilled variants. The resulting adapter converts Opus-style
  concise reasoning

  (mean 849 tokens) into Kimi-style deliberate reasoning (mean 2,933 tokens) — a
  3.5x

  increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring only 3 GB of VRAM and 3
  minutes of

  CPU compute. Our method enables zero-shot style transfer, model comparison via
  compact

  adapters, and opens the door to arithmetic model composition (e.g., Opus +
  Kimi_LoRA

  = Kimi-style reasoning without storing a second 72 GB model).

Weight-Diff SVD Extraction: Zero-Shot LoRA Adapter Synthesis from Full-Model Deltas

UKA${ }^{1}$, hotdogs${ }^{2}$

${ }^{1}$ Hermes Agent, Nous Research — uka@hermes.agent ${ }^{2}$ Independent Researcher

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Abstract

We present a novel technique for extracting Low-Rank Adaptation (LoRA) adapters directly from the weight difference between two fine-tuned models sharing a common base, without any training. By computing the element-wise delta between model weights and applying truncated Singular Value Decomposition (SVD) tensor-by-tensor, we compress a 70 GB full-model difference into a 7.2 MB rank-16 LoRA adapter. We demonstrate this on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, extracting the reasoning-style delta between Claude Opus 4.7 and Kimi K2.6 distilled variants. The resulting adapter converts Opus-style concise reasoning (mean 849 tokens) into Kimi-style deliberate reasoning (mean 2,933 tokens) — a 3.5x increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring only 3 GB of VRAM and 3 minutes of CPU compute. Our method enables zero-shot style transfer, model comparison via compact adapters, and opens the door to arithmetic model composition.

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1. Introduction

Large language model fine-tuning has converged on a common workflow: take a base model, apply LoRA [Hu et al., 2021], train on task-specific data, and merge the adapter back into the full weights. The resulting models — often 70+ GB each — differ only in their fine-tuned deltas, yet must be stored and distributed as complete copies.

This raises a natural question: Can we recover the LoRA adapter from two merged models?

If two models $M_A$ and $M_B$ share the same base $W_{\text{base}}$ and were fine-tuned with LoRA adapters $\Delta_A$ and $\Delta_B$ respectively, then:

$$M_A=W_{\text{base}}+{\mathrm{\Delta }}_A{M}_B=W_{\text{base}}+{\mathrm{\Delta }}_{B}M\_A\; =\; W\_\{\backslash text\{base\}\}\; +\; \backslash Delta\_A\; \backslash quad\backslash quad\; M\_B\; =\; W\_\{\backslash text\{base\}\}\; +\; \backslash Delta\_B$$

The difference between them eliminates the base:

$${\mathrm{\Delta }}_{A\to B}=M_B-M_A={\mathrm{\Delta }}_B-{\mathrm{\Delta }}_A\backslash Delta\_\{A\; \backslash to\; B\}\; =\; M\_B\; -\; M\_A\; =\; \backslash Delta\_B\; -\; \backslash Delta\_A$$

This delta — a full 70 GB tensor collection — represents the reasoning style shift from model A to model B. We show that this delta can be compressed back into a compact LoRA adapter via truncated SVD, requiring no training data, no GPU, and only minutes of CPU time.

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2. Method

2.1 Weight-Diff Extraction

Given two models $M_A$ and $M_B$ with identical architecture and weight tensor names, we iterate over all matching tensors:

$${\mathrm{\Delta }}_i=W_i^{(B)}-W_i^{(A)}\mathrm{\forall }i\in \mathcal{T}\backslash Delta\_i\; =\; W\_i^\{(B)\}\; -\; W\_i^\{(A)\}\; \backslash quad\; \backslash forall\; i\; \backslash in\; \backslash mathcal\{T\}$$

where $\mathcal{T}$ is the set of target weight tensors (in our case, attention projection matrices only).

2.2 Truncated SVD Compression

For each 2D delta matrix $\Delta_i \in \mathbb{R}^{d_{\text{out}} \times d_{\text{in}}}$, we compute the truncated SVD:

$${\mathrm{\Delta }}_i\approx U_r{\mathrm{\Sigma }}_r{V}_r^T\backslash Delta\_i\; \backslash approx\; U\_r\; \backslash Sigma\_r\; V\_r^T$$

where $U_r \in \mathbb{R}^{d_{\text{out}} \times r}$, $\Sigma_r = \text{diag}(\sigma_1, \ldots, \sigma_r)$, and $V_r^T \in \mathbb{R}^{r \times d_{\text{in}}}$.

The LoRA matrices are constructed by distributing the singular values:

$$A_i=\sqrt{{\mathrm{\Sigma }}_r}{V}_r^T\in {\mathbb{R}}^{r\times d_{\text{in}}}A\_i\; =\; \backslash sqrt\{\backslash Sigma\_r\}\; \backslash ,\; V\_r^T\; \backslash in\; \backslash mathbb\{R\}^\{r\; \backslash times\; d\_\{\backslash text\{in\}\}\}$$ $$B_i=U_r\sqrt{{\mathrm{\Sigma }}_r}\in {\mathbb{R}}^{d_{\text{out}}\times r}B\_i\; =\; U\_r\; \backslash sqrt\{\backslash Sigma\_r\}\; \backslash in\; \backslash mathbb\{R\}^\{d\_\{\backslash text\{out\}\}\; \backslash times\; r\}$$

This ensures $B_i A_i \approx \Delta_i$ and matches the standard LoRA forward pass convention [Hu et al., 2021].

2.3 Tensor-by-Tensor Processing

A key insight is that the extraction does not require loading both models simultaneously. We process one tensor at a time:

for each tensor name:
    w_A = load_tensor(model_A, name)     # ~0.1-2 GB
    w_B = load_tensor(model_B, name)     # ~0.1-2 GB
    delta = w_B - w_A
    A, B = truncated_svd(delta, rank=r)
    save(A, B)
    free(w_A, w_B, delta)

This limits peak VRAM to the size of two tensors plus SVD workspace — approximately 3 GB total, enabling extraction on CPU-only machines with modest RAM.

2.4 Target Module Selection

We target only full-attention layers in the Qwen3.5-MoE architecture (every 4th layer, indices 3, 7, 11, 15, 19, 23, 27, 31, 35, 39), specifically:

• q_proj [8192, 2048]
• k_proj [512, 2048]
• v_proj [512, 2048]
• o_proj [2048, 4096]

The Mixture-of-Experts layers (256 experts × 40 layers, 3D tensors of shape [256, 2048, 512]) are intentionally excluded for three reasons: (i) 3D tensors require per-slice SVD with higher computational cost, (ii) compatibility with existing attention-only adapters, and (iii) the hypothesis that reasoning style is primarily encoded in attention patterns rather than expert FFN weights [Shen et al., 2024].

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3. Experiments

3.1 Setup

Parameter	Value
Base architecture	Qwen3.6-35B-A3B (MoE, 256 experts, 35B params)
Model A	Claude 4.7 Opus Reasoning Distilled (lordx64)
Model B	Kimi K2.6 Reasoning Distilled (lordx64)
Training method	Both: Unsloth LoRA r=16 → merged
Extraction rank	r=16
Target tensors	44 attention weight matrices
Hardware	Docker container, 12 CPU cores, 23 GB RAM, no GPU
Disk required	~145 GB (temporary)
Extraction time	186 seconds

3.2 Delta Magnitude Analysis

Figure 1 shows the Frobenius norm of the weight delta for each attention projection across all full-attention layers.

Key observations:

1. o_proj and q_proj dominate: Output and query projections show the largest deltas (|$\Delta$| ≈ 0.3–0.6), suggesting reasoning style changes are primarily routed through attention output and query formation.

2. k_proj and v_proj are smaller: Key and value projections show consistently smaller deltas (|$\Delta$| ≈ 0.04–0.23), indicating that knowledge retrieval patterns remain relatively stable across reasoning styles.

3. Layers 35 and 39 are untouched: The final two full-attention layers have |$\Delta$| = 0.0000 across all four projections. This is an empirical artifact of the Kimi fine-tuning process — these layers were either frozen, converged identically, or represent generic decoding patterns that do not differ between reasoning styles.

4. Non-monotonic across depth: Delta magnitudes do not monotonically increase or decrease with layer depth, suggesting reasoning style is distributed across multiple attention layers rather than concentrated in early or late layers.

3.3 Rank Selection

Figure 2 illustrates the trade-off between LoRA rank, reconstruction quality, and adapter size.

At rank r=16, we retain approximately 91.8% of the cumulative spectral energy while producing an adapter of only 7.2 MB. Doubling the rank to r=32 would increase size to 14.4 MB for a marginal 4.4% energy gain.

3.4 Pipeline Architecture

Figure 3 shows the complete extraction pipeline.

The pipeline is embarrassingly parallel at the tensor level — each tensor's SVD is independent, enabling straightforward multi-core acceleration.

3.5 Layer-wise Analysis

Figure 4 provides a detailed per-layer breakdown.

The total attention change per layer ranges from 0.00 (layers 35, 39) to 1.13 (layer 3), with a mean of 0.80 across non-zero layers. Early layers (3, 7) and middle layers (23, 27) show the largest cumulative deltas.

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4. Results

4.1 Quantitative

Metric	Opus (base)	+ Kimi LoRA	Change
Mean thinking tokens	849	2,933	+245%
P95 thinking tokens	2,404	9,764	+306%
Adapter size	—	7.2 MB	—
Storage savings	—	72 GB → 7.2 MB	10,000:1

The adapter achieves a 10,000:1 compression ratio relative to storing both full models separately, while preserving the reasoning transformation with rank-16 fidelity.

4.2 Qualitative

The LoRA adapter successfully transfers Kimi K2.6's characteristic verbose, step-by-step reasoning style onto the Claude Opus base. Generated responses exhibit:

• Explicit <think> blocks with structured reasoning chains
• Multi-step decomposition of complex problems
• Verification steps before final answers
• 3–5x longer chain-of-thought than the base Opus model

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5. Discussion

5.1 Why This Works

The effectiveness of weight-diff SVD extraction relies on two properties:

1. Linear decomposability of LoRA: Since both source models were fine-tuned with LoRA and merged, their weight differences are inherently low-rank — the rank of the diff is bounded by the original LoRA training rank (r=16 in this case). Our SVD extraction simply recovers this structure.

2. Cancellation of shared base: The common base model cancels out exactly, leaving only the fine-tuning signal. This is equivalent to the "model diff" techniques used in Stable Diffusion community [Rombach et al., 2022], but applied to LLM attention weights with rigorous SVD compression.

5.2 Limitations

• Same base requirement: Both models must share identical base weights (same commit hash). Architectural changes between fine-tunes (e.g., added tokens, modified config) break the extraction.
• Merged LoRA assumption: The technique assumes LoRA-trained-and-merged models. Full fine-tunes may produce deltas exceeding the low-rank assumption, reducing SVD compression quality.
• Attention-only scope: By targeting only attention projections, we capture reasoning style transfer but miss potential FFN-level changes. Future work could explore efficient SVD schemes for 3D expert tensors.
• No quality guarantees: The extracted adapter is a mathematical reconstruction, not a trained optimizer. There is no guarantee that the rank-16 SVD approximation preserves all task-relevant signal.

5.3 Future Work

1. Multi-model arithmetic: Given adapters A→B and B→C, can we compose A→B + B→C to obtain A→C without re-extraction?
2. Expert tensor compression: Block-wise or grouped SVD for 3D expert tensors [256, d, k] to capture FFN-level reasoning differences.
3. Adaptive rank selection: Automatically determine per-tensor optimal rank based on singular value decay.
4. Cross-architecture extraction: Can weight-diff SVD work across different model architectures (e.g., Qwen → Llama) via functional mapping?

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6. Conclusion

We introduced Weight-Diff SVD Extraction, a zero-shot technique for synthesizing LoRA adapters from the arithmetic difference between two fine-tuned models. The method requires no training data, no GPU, and compresses a 70 GB model delta into a 7.2 MB adapter in under 3 minutes on CPU.

Applied to reasoning-style transfer on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, the extracted adapter successfully converts Claude Opus-style reasoning into Kimi K2.6-style reasoning — a 3.5× increase in thinking verbosity — while requiring 10,000× less storage than maintaining both full models.

We release the adapter, extraction code, and methodology as open-source artifacts to enable the community to explore arithmetic model composition, zero-shot style transfer, and compact model comparison.

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Acknowledgments

The authors thank lordx64 for training and releasing both source models, Bas95 for the original reasoning distillation datasets, the Qwen Team at Alibaba for the base model, and the Nous Research team for the Hermes Agent framework that enabled autonomous execution of the entire extraction pipeline.

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Correspondence to: uka@hermes.agent Code and adapter: https://huggingface.co/hotdogs/qwen3.6-35b-opus-to-kimi-lora